Top brands that have no respect

BlueFox said:
Is that a worldwide number? Also, are you saying headphones are an $8-$13 billion dollar market?
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This article quotes an industry research report that places headphones at $9B in 2018, for all types of headphones. Considering the market share of headphone brands and ODMs, I suspect that may be quite accurate.

This article quotes a different research report assigning ~$2.5B in 2016 for all home audio. But I suspect that report excludes the boutique brands which many of us are talking about here.

Custom install is pretty much how all the traditional brick and mortar stores still near me are staying in business, except for a tiny number in very high traffic areas like San Francisco.
 
Mike said:
Headphones are estimated at $10 billion annually. Beats, Bose, Sony, etc.
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That is a lot of cheap ass headphones. One pair of Magico A3 speakers at $10K is 50 $200 headphones, and I seriously doubt many are buying $200 headphones.
 
BlueFox said:
That is a lot of cheap ass headphones. One pair of Magico A3 speakers at $10K is 50 $200 headphones, and I seriously doubt many are buying $200 headphones.
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I see lots of young kids walking around wearing headphone attached to their smartphone. they don't have problem blowing 20-50 bucks on headphone. $200 might be too much for most people.
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Exactly. The numbers are mixing two entirely different markets. Consumer throw away junk versus a stereo, and by stereo I am including any home stereo with speakers.
 
BlueFox said:
That is a lot of cheap ass headphones. One pair of Magico A3 speakers at $10K is 50 $200 headphones, and I seriously doubt many are buying $200 headphones.
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Most are not buying 200- $1000 headphones but the people are buying lots of headphones, they are not for audio ya know. The gaming market is huge on headphones. It also proves that the young are not buying hi-end audio but they are buying gaming equipment,

The video games market is expected to be worth over 90 billion U.S. dollars by 2020, from nearly 78.61 billion in 2017
 
I'm surprised no one mentioned Herron Audio. I've had various iterations of their phono and line stages in my main system for decades. I have not found anything better for the money. Yes, there are better components for substantially more but I would rather put most of my money in good speakers. Also great service and support directly from the designer with occasional, reasonably priced upgrades.
 
Over here in Asia there are many brands that are wildly popular that get very little coverage in the US: i wish the Us magazines would occasionally have something on their cover that wasn't Magico or Wilson or Audio Research!

1. Goldmund, FM Acoustics, Kharma, Marten, Tidal, MBL, CH Precision, Tannoy, Audio Note UK, Kondo, Dartzeel, Vivid. Of course the usual suspects are also popular, the Magicos, Wilsons, Audio Research, Sonus Faber, Mcintosh.

The problem people have in buying into brands is what happens when you come to sell it. It is almost nigh upon impossible to sell something here if it is not seen as mainstream and that goes for cars too. I'm just glad that almost every brand is available here within 30 mins by subway. The only issue is that due to the small size of venues here, they often don't have the entire line-up for demo and often the top of the range is only available for order so you have to buy blind.
 
Linn Audio loudspeakers :P

Selling Price : USD $130,000.00

https://www.equipupstore.com/searchitemshow?Linn-Audio-home-Floor-Standing-Stereo-Speakers-&mysec=22



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Sugden in Uk probably is one of THE most respected brands ever , it has a huge amount of love. I had a sugden a21se here recently and although only 40 watts , it was pure class A and totally the reverse of what i was expecting .
 
In another week or so every manufacturer will have appeared in this thread. Apparently there is no respect for any of them. :D
 
Next thing you know someone is going to say McIntosh... that is when I know for sure that this thread went completely off the rails.
 
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