Record Cleaning Liquid: L’Art du Son

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Before I begin using the record cleaning liquid: L’Art du Son, has anyone used this product and if so, any recommendations and/or cautions?
 
I have not tried this one. Considering that it's a concentrate that will make a gallon, the price is not bad at all. There doesn't seem to be much info on it as to ingredients and such. Judging by reports of those who have used it I read nothing that really causes red flags to go up. I'm a little hesitant to buy into some of the claims about sound improvement unique to the use of this product. Cleaning a record with any proper fluid will always improve the sound in some fashion.
My only concerns are what's in it and whether or not anything is left behind on the record.
 
L'Art du Son record cleaning fluid has been tested and recommended by Loricraft, The Absolute Sound, Positive Feedback, Origin Live, and numerous others that have done comparisons with the competition. It is found to do the best job in cleaning while leaving no residue. You can read some details about its features and recommended use on the Needle Doctor's page. Hope that you find this information helpful, but I don't see how you can go wrong with it!
 
audio.bill said:
L'Art du Son record cleaning fluid has been tested and recommended by Loricraft, The Absolute Sound, Positive Feedback, Origin Live, and numerous others that have done comparisons with the competition. It is found to do the best job in cleaning while leaving no residue. You can read some details about its features and recommended use on the Needle Doctor's page. Hope that you find this information helpful, but I don't see how you can go wrong with it!
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Bill, thanks for chiming in!!!!!!!!
 
audio.bill said:
L'Art du Son record cleaning fluid has been tested and recommended by Loricraft, The Absolute Sound, Positive Feedback, Origin Live, and numerous others that have done comparisons with the competition. It is found to do the best job in cleaning while leaving no residue. You can read some details about its features and recommended use on the Needle Doctor's page. Hope that you find this information helpful, but I don't see how you can go wrong with it!
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Ah, well there we are then, did a bit more looking too. Like I mentioned, I didn't note any real red flags, just don't know what is in it or if it left any residue. Since it seems it does not leave any I may pick some up myself later to try. I use AIVS fluids and a home brew on occasion, also MoFi, but it never hurts to have another fluid that might take care of some stuff better than the next one on hand. Plus, this one is affordable considering that it's a concentrate and compared to a 3-step 32oz kit of AIVS.
Yup, don't see much going wrong now that I know there is no residue.
 
One thing I should emphasize which is mentioned in the usage section, is that this fluid is recommended for use with a vacuum record cleaning machine. I would not suggest using it in an electrostatic machine like the KL Audio, since such usage has not been tested from everything that I've read.
 
audio.bill said:
One thing I should emphasize which is mentioned in the usage section, is that this fluid is recommended for use with a vacuum record cleaning machine. I would not suggest using it in an electrostatic machine like the KL Audio, since such usage has not been tested from everything that I've read.
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Very good point. I read about both vinegar and PhotoFlo being used with so far, no adverse results. I have both the KL and AudioDesk. I will not use this product in either machines.
 
I would be afraid to use anything other than water in the KL Audio due to warranty concerns, unless they gave you approval to do so. I know you've been in touch with them and they said to use anything other than water "at your own risk". Those machines are too expensive for me to be willing to accept the risk of destroying them!
 
My personal belief is that cleaning fluids are meant for traditional RCMs not US machines. Personally, I also would clean a record with such fluids and a traditional RCM then use the US as a final step.
 
Golucid said:
That's why at the very last minute cancelled my AVIS order. The 3-step process turned me off.
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It can be a bit much when you consider the desire to leave the product on for the recommended time of 2 to 3 minutes except for final rinse. To me personally though it's worth the effort. Also I don't strictly use the 3-step, Sometimes I only need the #6 one-step or the #15 followed by the one-step or what have you. It depends on the level of dirt on the record and such. Still the 3-step process can take up to about 14 minutes for one record if you go max everything (I'm including a couple of minutes for rinse and vacuum).

I've learned to live with it because I went all OCD with learning to clean records properly and wanted to get good fluid. So I just take it as is. To me, it's worth it because I've made some little gem finds play fabulously. A little work for the reward.
Doesn't mean I would not want a full automatic US RCM or something, but then I also want a golden unicorn that craps money, neither thing is going to happen, you know what I mean?

The AVIS fluids are enzyme based and in my opinion that is important as most of the dirt on a record is protein based. I don't know what is in the L Art Du Son fluid and how it handles certain contaminates. That's why I want to get a bottle and try it out.

Anyway, all that is just me.
 
IT clogged up my dual matrix. It's a great product but I wouldn't recommend it for RCMs with reservoirs only for machines with manual fluid application.
 
MusicDirector said:
It can be a bit much when you consider the desire to leave the product on for the recommended time of 2 to 3 minutes except for final rinse. To me personally though it's worth the effort. Also I don't strictly use the 3-step, Sometimes I only need the #6 one-step or the #15 followed by the one-step or what have you. It depends on the level of dirt on the record and such. Still the 3-step process can take up to about 14 minutes for one record if you go max everything (I'm including a couple of minutes for rinse and vacuum).

I've learned to live with it because I went all OCD with learning to clean records properly and wanted to get good fluid. So I just take it as is. To me, it's worth it because I've made some little gem finds play fabulously. A little work for the reward.
Doesn't mean I would not want a full automatic US RCM or something, but then I also want a golden unicorn that craps money, neither thing is going to happen, you know what I mean?

The AVIS fluids are enzyme based and in my opinion that is important as most of the dirt on a record is protein based. I don't know what is in the L Art Du Son fluid and how it handles certain contaminates. That's why I want to get a bottle and try it out.

Anyway, all that is just me.
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See the original work of Bruce Maeier of Discwasher in the '80s. He was a microbiologist who developed a cleaning solution that removed the bugs and their endoskeletons in the grooves. :)

I think the enzyme based cleaners are a huge sonic step forward over conventional RCFs. If anyone hasn't tried say the AVIS or MOFI enzyme cleaners, you are really missing out on a good thing. But you must do the water rinse.
 
I know Myles. Bummer right? I should have expected it in hindsight. It does say on the label that if solids form in the bottle just give it a shake. Shaking an entire RCM isn't easy to do. LOL.
 
JackD said:
IT clogged up my dual matrix. It's a great product but I wouldn't recommend it for RCMs with reservoirs only for machines with manual fluid application.
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Uh oh, not good!
I have a VPI 16.5 so I should be ok if I try it, but then again?
 
Myles B. Astor said:
See the original work of Bruce Maeier of Discwasher in the '80s. He was a microbiologist who developed a cleaning solution that removed the bugs and their endoskeletons in the grooves. :)

I think the enzyme based cleaners are a huge sonic step forward over conventional RCFs. If anyone hasn't tried say the AVIS or MOFI enzyme cleaners, you are really missing out on a good thing. But you must do the water rinse.
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Absolutely!
Looking at all that stuff was part of the reason I went with AIVS almost 3 years ago. I wanted a quality enzymatic cleaner. I tried Phoenix RCF once, horrible stuff. It will clog everything too. Thank goodness I did not use it in my VPI. I have only used the MoFi super wash (still do on occasion)...I think. I might have tried two RCFs from them, it's been too long to remember, I need to pick up their other RCFs to try.
 
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