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Jd .

Ya know I got knocked for saying the dsd got better and PCM got worse . Nice to read someone else hears it that way. I honestly do not know why they just cannot get them together . What we need here is a simple firmware rolling from the main screen or perhaps from the chip kept incerted in the back . It could hold many firmwares. Another cool feature would be a striped down FPGA frimware . Anything that can improve the sound is fine by me.

Lastly myles I would loan you like my DS for a review . I would very much like to set you up for one.

We can figure it out for sure.
 
Myles your view in this is very important , as you being a vinyl guy. As I hear the difference too , I think you hear it much more. So your view tells an even better detailed experience.

Reg the berkely. When ever I upsample PCM to dsd . It looses its bite and smooths it out.

down sampling dsd from 128 to 64 . Was not good as it lost its air around the music , seemed more flat.
Nkw I never tried to downssampled to PCM .
 
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I convert DSD to PCM 176.4 with JRiver on the fly to my Bel Canto DAC and it sounds extreamly outstanding! I think it sounds as good as DSD DACs I've heard. Mind you my system is setup for optimum PCM playback.
 
No way the conversion sound as good as Native DSD playback on primo DSD Dacs. The conversion alone is lossy due to decimation.
 
Now this is my immediate thought but I honestly have not tried it. Maybe tonight lets see. Is there any reason to not use 14/192 or even 384 pcm ?
 
Now this is my immediate thought but I honestly have not tried it. Maybe tonight lets see. Is there any reason to not use 14/192 or even 384 pcm ?


Yes, quad rate…Integer multiple math, no need for rounding errors.
 
Nice read but the truth is every one has version they think is best. Look at os audio and chord electronics
For me listening is always the best proof. But I am going to try the pcm down sample I do not know of anyone doing that so a worth while try.
Has anyone else here down samples DSD to pcm ???
 
I convert DSD to PCM 176.4 with JRiver on the fly to my Bel Canto DAC and it sounds extreamly outstanding! I think it sounds as good as DSD DACs I've heard. Mind you my system is setup for optimum PCM playback.

Curious if you tried converting your DSD to PCM first offline to hear if it sounds better than on the fly conversion?

Nice read but the truth is every one has version they think is best. Look at os audio and chord electronics
For me listening is always the best proof. But I am going to try the pcm down sample I do not know of anyone doing that so a worth while try.
Has anyone else here down samples DSD to pcm ???

I plan to try this tonight to see if it makes a difference.
 
So guys, what's the verdict on the update? Some like, some don't it seems. Thoughts?

On the bright side, at least there is an option.
 
So guys, what's the verdict on the update? Some like, some don't it seems. Thoughts?

On the bright side, at least there is an option.


I'm thrilled with mine. I know the S1 is working well for you, but I need to use a server so I can run DSP software. This way, there are not multiple D to A conversions. Between my home and warehouse, I have several systems.........so I am not in an "either/or" situation. I can put several dacs to work. PCM playback definitely took on a smoother/softer presentation. This may work well for some, if their system is on the bright side. I don't think it lost any detail, but rather a bit of leading edge bite ( which I preferred ). I could brighten up my system with different speaker cables ( Nordost most likely ), but then it would mess up the vastly improved DSD playback. So I prefer the update, and fantastic DSD playback. I may buy another DirectStream, and use the original firmware for PCM playback. It really was that good. But I will wait and see how the Berkeley sounds when it arrives.......then make a decision.

Jerry-
 
Bag the DSP Jerry - it's the audio devil. ;)

Glad its working great for you.


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Bag the DSP Jerry - it's the audio devil. ;)

Glad its working great for you.


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Tell me that in five years. DSP will be mainstream, and there won't be much argument about it. Analog will always have its place, as always. But DSP, just like CD/Digital Audio.....will open up new possibilities. Mike, you know how much DSP is already involved in the making of music.......so you cannot claim it is evil. Your recent trip to a studio opened up your eyes. If you saw the hundreds of digital manipulations applied to todays music/re-issues, you would be shocked. You got a quick peak under the hood, but it's just the tip of the iceberg. Not much is natural/unmolested anymore. The magic digital wand is applied to nearly everything.
 
Tell me that in five years. DSP will be mainstream, and there won't be much argument about it. Analog will always have its place, as always. But DSP, just like CD/Digital Audio.....will open up new possibilities. Mike, you know how much DSP is already involved in the making of music.......so you cannot claim it is evil. Your recent trip to a studio opened up your eyes. If you saw the hundreds of digital manipulations applied to todays music/re-issues, you would be shocked. You got a quick peak under the hood, but it's just the tip of the iceberg. Not much is natural/unmolested anymore. The magic digital wand is applied to nearly everything.


Isn't it a shame it has taken 30 years to sort of get it right. Sometimes it is sublime, others, well, maybe the tech should have his mixing mastering card revoked.
 
Isn't it a shame it has taken 30 years to sort of get it right. Sometimes it is sublime, others, well, maybe the tech should have his mixing mastering card revoked.

Agreed. But we will never get the genie back in the bottle. I was listening to some live cassette recordings I made about 20 years, of an acoustic duo I was friends with. They recordings bring forth a truth that most recordings completely lack. It was an old Sansui cassette deck.....nothing fancy.
But DSP is in full force, whether anybody believes in it or not. It's just the way the recording business is done these days.
 
Curious if you tried converting your DSD to PCM first offline to hear if it sounds better than on the fly conversion?



I plan to try this tonight to see if it makes a difference.

I’m extremely satisfied with the current process. Just fyi, I have it process the music file entirely and load the entire music file be that FLAC or DSD and all music files into memory before it starts playing. When I monitor the CPU and network traffic they both ramp up while it process the music file and after it’s done both CPU and the network traffic falls back down to nearly 0. After that it starts playing the music. This all happens in about 5 seconds. I have enabled memory play back feature which allows it to play from memory and does not have to access the source after the file has been totally processed. The memory buffer is capped at one gigabyte, and rolls as needed for extremely large files. Works fantastic!
 
I’m extremely satisfied with the current process. Just fyi, I have it process the music file entirely and load the entire music file be that FLAC or DSD and all music files into memory before it starts playing. When I monitor the CPU and network traffic they both ramp up while it process the music file and after it’s done both CPU and the network traffic falls back down to nearly 0. After that it starts playing the music. This all happens in about 5 seconds. I have enabled memory play back feature which allows it to play from memory and does not have to access the source after the file has been totally processed. The memory buffer is capped at one gigabyte, and rolls as needed for extremely large files. Works fantastic!
Thank you for the reply! How are the specs of your music PC? I only have an i3 processor so not sure if it has enough horsepower for on the fly conversion.

Do you Jriver for conversion and playback? If so I didnt realize you could specify the memory buffer. At least this wasnt a feature in version 19.
 
Thank you for the reply! How are the specs of your music PC? I only have an i3 processor so not sure if it has enough horsepower for on the fly conversion.

Do you Jriver for conversion and playback? If so I didnt realize you could specify the memory buffer. At least this wasnt a feature in version 19.

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Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro Ultrabook with Intel Haswell 4th Generation Core i5-4200U, 4GB of DDR3L RAM, 120GB SSD, Windows 8.1, JRMC v20

The 1GB memory is a fixed size. You can't adjust it. Don't need to it's way more then enough.
 
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