Lampizator Golden Gate

Here is some more news I just heard... EML Anniversary globes in MESH plate form will be available soon via Lampi. The Limited edition originals were solid plate only and for the first time they will do mesh Anniv Globes. No idea on price.
 
Is anyone besides Mike? running the GG direct in either SE or Balanced to set amps and using the REMOTE vol control?
 
Since getting my Big 7 balanced with volume control, I am running direct to my amps and using the volume control. Works great. I have not tried single ended to my Cary 300B SE amps yet. So far in all cases, it's outstanding. My Golden Gate balanced with volume control is on order and should be coming soon. I can not imagine anything better at the moment.
 
I decided to upgrade to Golden Gate - could not resist as the Lampi sound has been transformative in the very short time I owned my big 7.
 
Audiophile bill said:
I decided to upgrade to Golden Gate - could not resist as the Lampi sound has been transformative in the very short time I owned my big 7.
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Congratulations Bill. I feel the same way. It has been an unbelievable, moving experience listening to my Lampi. I can not wait until our GG's arrive.
 
joeinid said:
Congratulations Bill. I feel the same way. It has been an unbelievable, moving experience listening to my Lampi. I can not wait until our GG's arrive.
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Music sounds so addictive and that is what this is all about. I can't get myself to bed on time, which is a great sign. The Lampi philosophy is spot on and upgrades are always available should you want. Can't wait for the golden gate.
 
Mike, Joe etc, I need a little advice. I am going to buy a GG, but cannot decide if I should order a balanced or SE unit. In both cases I will be running it direct to my amps and using the remote vol control. In case # 1 I will be using it to drive low power AN Kegons which only have SE inputs to drive 98 db speakers. But in case # 2 if I am not happy with the 98 db speakers, I would switch to 83 db speakers driven by Vac 450 monos which has both XLR and SE inputs. Should I buy the more expensive balanced GG or the SE unit?
 
Get SE if your amps are SE, Bal otherwise. Not a good idea to mix, as that is sub-optimal. Horses for courses.

PS, when I say Balanced, I mean fully internally Balanced…otherwise its really SE.
 
Zagfan,

I can only imagine how off the hook awesome a balanced GG into the VAC 450's would sound. You will still have SE outputs on the GG so, my vote, goes to getting the fully balanced GG and don't look back. even if there is a remote possibility to use the XLR's, I'd go balanced.
 
Guys, One more thought. If I were to order the balanced version with both SE and balanced outputs, and ended up just using the SE outputs to the SE inputs of the Kegons, do you think the SQ would be better than if I just ordered the SE version. In other words does the Balanced version sound better even if you do not use the balanced outputs?
 
zagfan said:
Guys, One more thought. If I were to order the balanced version with both SE and balanced outputs, and ended up just using the SE outputs to the SE inputs of the Kegons, do you think the SQ would be better than if I just ordered the SE version. In other words does the Balanced version sound better even if you do not use the balanced outputs?
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Without knowing for sure, my gut tells me YES. I feel the balanced version is quieter, giving you a lower noise floor and hence, better performance.
 
4000 euros difference.

The question that I want to find the answer to is - if you use the single ended outputs of the balanced golden gate, are you still taking advantage of the balanced circuitry that is then unbalanced for the output or does the single ended omit the duplicated circuit for the other phase used with XLR balanced?
 
Bill,
No you don't. The Bal lines are combined together for SE and so the Bal track ends there. To get Bal benefits, you have to be fully internally balanced from start to speakers.

Its important to note that Bal is NOT "better", just like a 4wd SUV Cayanne is not better than 911 roadster, just built to be different.

In the case of the Dac, Bal starts with a distinct advantage…the chip output is ONLY balanced and so if electronics are all fully balanced downstream, its the purest chain possible. I assume the DSD will be dual mono too, so same PCM advantage applies there too.

Remember, Lukasz does not make "faux Balanced", it is fully internally balanced with double the components, and thus why it costs significantly more.

Having said all that, if you have SE electronics, then no advantage to getting a Bal Dac….UNLESS you leave the option open to getting Bal maps later. I assume that SE output in the Bal Dac should be about equivalent to a SE Dac.
 
wisnon said:
Bill,
No you don't. The Bal lines are combined to for SE and so the bal track ends there. To get Bal benefits, you have to be fully internally balanced from start to speakers.

Its important to note that Bal is NOT "better", just like a 4wd SUV Cayanne is not better than 911 roadster, just built to be different.

In the case of the Dac, Bal starts with a distinct advantage…the chip output is ONLY balanced and so if electronics are all fully balanced downstream, its the purest chain possible. I assume the DSD will be dual mono too, so same PCM advantage applies there too.

Remember, Lukasz does not make "faux Balanced", its is fully internally balanced with double the components, and thus why it costs significantly more.

Having said all that, if you have SE electronics, then no advantage to getting a Bal Dac….UNLESS you leave the option open to getting Bal maps later. I assume that SE output in the Bal Dac should be about equivalent to a SE Dac.
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Hi Norman,

Thanks for your explanation - you are the very limit of my understanding. In summary would the circuits be the same for the single ended outputs irrespective of the dac (normal or balanced version)? Just trying to determine whether if one were to use single ended outputs from a balanced unit, it would be the same as using single ended outputs of the regular unit.
 
Not sure if same, but I guess similar and cheaper in the case of SE. To justify the extra cost and parts for Bal, you really should riun fully balanced. If you run SE now and toy with the idea of Balanced now, then get Bal.
 
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