Tariff implications.........

[the professor]

Thank you and exactly correct. I keep hearing people say he won a mandate. To this I say BS. He won by less than 1.5% and that was against someone who was thrown in at the last minute. Also, against a black woman which a lot of this country (the red swath of this country) will never support. Also, a lot of BS propaganda, much of which was pushed by Musk's millions of dollars, created a situation where millions of people did not vote. Therefore when you consider all factors he did not win a mandate, and in actuality he completely under performed. Current polling shows that he has very limited support from the American people.

Yes I do not like Trump, like a majority of the American people. I do not like liars, I do not like people who never keeps their word (never honors a deal they made), and I hate bullies. I also hate people whose mode of operation is to demoralize other people, who treats people of different faiths, different nationalities, different racial or religious orientations, different sexual orientations as lessor because of any of these factors. I hate people who treat others with disrespect, who are not faithful and honest. Who uses their powers of bullshit to mislead or steal from other people. Trump fits all of these and is a singular monster as a human being. This is why I hate Donald Trump. He is a little man who treats other people worse than any person I have ever seen.

And, to date he has delivered nothing. He promises the world with his bull shit, but does not actually deliver anything. He is using our White House to grift the American people and to grift the world. Yes, I do not like Donald J. Trump.

Look at the bright side. At least he’s given you an outlet to focus on and get your hate out.

 

[mep]

Look at the bright side. At least he’s given you an outlet to focus on and get your hate out.

He's a 4 alarm fire of hate.

 

[LVB]

He's a 4 alarm fire of hate.

And you, of course, are a model of love and kindness.

 

[mep]

And you, of course, are a model of love and kindness.

Thank you. You're a bowl of cherries yourself.

 

[nicoff]

I still wonder how come this thread is still open given that this Forum Rules clearly say:

“Discussions regarding Politics and Religion are not permitted. Offenders will jeopardize their membership.”

 

[mep]

I still wonder how come this thread is still open given that this Forum Rules clearly say:

“Discussions regarding Politics and Religion are not permitted. Offenders will jeopardize their membership.”

That was true from the jump. Anybody who thought this thread had a chance in hell of not becoming extremely political is not running on all cylinders.

 

[Mike]

Happy to lock the thread if that’s everyone’s wishes.

 

[Shadowfax]

I say we stick to Tariff news which there is still plenty of including India dropping them as the highest on the US quite possibly.

 

[rbbert]

It is interesting (to me, at least) that since this thread started there have been a few changes in the tariff situation, undoubtedly with more to come.

 

[mep]

It is interesting (to me, at least) that since this thread started there have been a few changes in the tariff situation, undoubtedly with more to come.

Of course there have been changes and there will continue to be changes as more countries cut deals with the U.S.

 

[rbbert]

I don't know where you get your "facts" from, but Biden said he couldn't close the border down because he didn't have the authority unless Congress passed an immigration reform bill. Trump closed the border down within 30 days of taking office.

And by the way, Biden didn't do anything because he was already brain dead when he took office. There will be an investigation to determine who was really running the country in place of Biden.

The funny part is the MSM ran cover for the Whitehouse and claimed Biden was sharp as a tack and he had so much energy you couldn't keep up with him.

After Biden's disastrous debate with Trump peeled the curtain back on the Wizard of Oz, the top democrats pulled a coup on Biden and forced him out of the race.

Now that Biden is gone, so called MSM journalists are writing books everyday saying that they were deceived by the Whitehouse and Biden was way worse than anyone knew. This would actually be hilarious if the consequences of having unelected people running our country behind the scenes weren't so grave.

CBP Releases February 2025 Monthly Update

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year | USAFacts

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

Trump’s Misleading Chart on Illegal Immigration - FactCheck.org

During a speech in Green Bay, Wisconsin, former President Donald Trump pointed to a chart on apprehensions of people trying to enter the U.S. illegally at the southwest border. "See the arrow on the bottom? That was my last week in office," he said. "That was the lowest number in history." But...

www.factcheck.org

So there were far more apprehensions and expulsions from 2021-2024 than before or since, although it can easily be argued this is because there were so many more encounters and attempts. This year apprehensions and expulsions appear to be way down, but that is probably because there are dramatically fewer attempts, so in that sense the current policy is working.

As far as Trump "closing the border", that may end up being one of his many acts that are illegal and unconstitutional, although the final words from our judicial system still await.

 

[mep]

CBP Releases February 2025 Monthly Update

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year | USAFacts

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

Trump’s Misleading Chart on Illegal Immigration - FactCheck.org

During a speech in Green Bay, Wisconsin, former President Donald Trump pointed to a chart on apprehensions of people trying to enter the U.S. illegally at the southwest border. "See the arrow on the bottom? That was my last week in office," he said. "That was the lowest number in history." But...

www.factcheck.org

So there were far more apprehensions and expulsions from 2021-2024 than before or since, although it can easily be argued this is because there were so many more encounters and attempts. This year apprehensions and expulsions appear to be way down, but that is probably because there are dramatically fewer attempts, so in that sense the current policy is working.

As far as Trump "closing the border", that may end up being one of his many acts that are illegal and unconstitutional, although the final words from our judicial system still await.

The "apprehensions" don't count because the illegal aliens were immediately released into our country after they were "apprehended." It's why it was named "catch and release."

Presidents have absolute authority over our borders. Whoever told you it might be illegal for a President of the U.S. to keep illegal aliens from entering our country needs to put the Crack pipe down.

 

[crwilli]

A majority of the country has never supported Trump; just clarifying. And there have been no “results” yet, unless you are considering the turmoil and chaos that follows him.

Bullshit. There are a myriad of results for those that voted for Donald J Trump. Just start with the Border and work from there. But perhaps you are happier keeping your head in the sand.

Look, I don’t want to drink beer with President Trump. I too think he is tough to like.

But I have a bigger picture and there is no doubt in my mind that the USA is on a better path with President Trump than the ‘adult’ shadow government of Biden.

It’s about the issues not the man.

 

[Randy Myers]

Happy to lock the thread if that’s everyone’s wishes.

Please lock this down. People are definitely getting their dander up.

I have seen some that are not a surprise; unleashing the insults and typical nonsense. I have also been highly disappointed by a few that I expected much better out of. This has been eye opening in some regards.

So yes, please lock down this bull shit. It has already gone way too far.

 

[mep]

Please lock this down. People are definitely getting their dander up.

I have seen some that are not a surprise; unleashing the insults and typical nonsense. I have also been highly disappointed by a few that I expected much better out of. This has been eye opening in some regards.

Sp yes, please lock down this bull shit. It has already gone way too far.

Probably a good idea before you end up in a psych ward. You and your visceral hatred for all things Trump is pushing you to the edge of your sanity.

 

[Shadowfax]

Please lock this down. People are definitely getting their dander up.

I have seen some that are not a surprise; unleashing the insults and typical nonsense. I have also been highly disappointed by a few that I expected much better out of. This has been eye opening in some regards.

Sp yes, please lock down this bull shit. It has already gone way too far.

It does not need to be locked unless some of us refuse to behave. If we just stick to Tariffs and News about Tariffs and not bring all the hate you have shown, the thread will be just fine.

 

[Randy Myers]

It does not need to be locked unless some of us refuse to behave. If we just stick to Tariffs and News about Tariffs and not bring all the hate you have shown, the thread will be just fine.

It was not just me. As is not uncommon, mep started the issues by throwing out snarky personal insults and comments, as he continues to do. Three or four of you with the same like views started jumping in and feeding off his insults. Anyone attempting to give an opposing view point is immediately onslaught by the same three or four persons. Almost every one of those posts got into sly insults territory. Other than the asshole who always causes issues, I avoid throwing insults at anyone accept the deranged man that you few people defend like he is your Messiah.

Please do us all a favor and close this shit down.

I now know which few people to avoid getting into any kind of conversations with... point taken.

 

[Shadowfax]

It was not just me. As is not uncommon, mep started the issues by throwing out snarky personal insults and comments, as he continues to do. Three or four of you with the same like views started jumping in and feeding off his insults. Anyone attempting to give an opposing view point is immediately onslaught by the same three or four persons. Almost every one of those posts got into sly insults territory. Other than the asshole who always causes issues, I avoid throwing insults at anyone accept the deranged man that you few people defend like he is your Messiah.

Please do us all a favor and close this shit down.

I now know which few people to avoid getting into any kind of conversations with... point taken.

See, that is just a cop out. I did not single you out alone. I am guilty of adding political thoughts too and can refrain to keep discussing Tariffs.

"Anyone attempting to give an opposing view point is immediately onslaught by the same three or four persons" That is exactly how I feel. As long as everyone thinks just like you, all is OK but nobody can have a different point of view it seems.

If you don't want to discuss Tariffs, just stay out of the thread. It does not need to be closed just because you don't like other people's views.

 

[Randy Myers]

See, that is just a cop out. I did not single you out alone. I am guilty of adding political thoughts too and can refrain to keep discussing Tariffs.

"Anyone attempting to give an opposing view point is immediately onslaught by the same three or four persons" That is exactly how I feel. As long as everyone thinks just like you, all is OK but nobody can have a different point of view it seems.

If you don't want to discuss Tariffs, just stay out of the thread. It does not need to be closed just because you don't like other people's views.

Actually it should be closed because the people giving the opposing view point seem to be constantly steamrolled by the few Trump supporters... it is like your own little Truth Social. It appears to be very few people, but they appear to not be able to handle truthful comments about their Messiah, just like at the cult like rallies.

 

[Shadowfax]

Actually it should be closed because the people giving the opposing view point seem to be constantly steamrolled by the few Trump supporters... it is like your own little Truth Social. It appears to be very few people, but they appear to not be able to handle truthful comments about their Messiah, just like at the cult like rallies.

Again, it sounds like you just can't let it go. Stick to Tariff posts and news and we will have no issues. If we talk about Tariffs then all should be good.