Why so many Used Hegels for sale?

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Just curious here. I usually judge how good a component is by how many you can find up for sale. There are plenty of items that once purchased, are never resold or flipped. That usually says that the purchase was a good one and there was no need to sell it right off.

I did a HiFi Shark search on Integrated Amplifier and other than the Mass Market brands, it looked like there were way more Hegel Integrateds up for sale than any other High End or Entry Level HE brands.

Thoughts?
 
I noticed there's quite a few on Audiogon as well.

I just assumed most owners were upgrading to either the H160 or H360 because of the built-in ethernet and AirPlay streaming abilities.
 
There are a lot of H300s out there because of the new H360, which is a considerably better amp.
The same thing happened when the H160 came out, with previous integrateds.
I see a couple of DACs on Audiogon as well. That also might be due to the new (and rather good) HD30 DAC.
 
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Rance, That sounds logical. I see several 160s for sale, but no 360s yet. I guess another check in 6 months will verify that.

Dan- Too Funny and a high possibility.
 
Double-D said:
Brian.......Perhaps this photo was more widely viewed than thought.


Hegel H360 integrated amp on fire at dealer store in Norway.

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Dan-I didn't want to say it, but a picture is worth 1000 words. :D
 
I didn't see any H30s there.....Zero. I guess there isn't an H30 fire sale. Speculation is...just that. I would buy Hegel again in a minute. I can't think of an amp, in the price range, that comes close as a match for my Salon 2s or Raidho D1s.
 
I had some of the most ardent tube amp fans fall in love with the Hegel H30's sound when I had it in my system.

There are some excellent SS amps out there. The Hegel H30 is one of them.
 
I did not intend to belittle Hegel products, just curios as to the qty up for sale. Upgrading to the next makes sense. And I guess since they are in a more affordable range, people can afford to flip one more easily than a newer VAC product.
 
Shadowfax said:
I did not intend to belittle Hegel products, just curios as to the qty up for sale. Upgrading to the next makes sense. And I guess since they are in a more affordable range, people can afford to flip one more easily than a newer VAC product.
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Bryan - I didn't take it that way. It's a fair question. I often look at the "quantity of the quality" and wonder the same thing about a lot of stuff on audiogon: Devialet, Harbeth, PS Audio DAC's, etc. But one week there might be 5 or 6 of something and then a week later there is only one or none. It's hard to figure out and reason "why".

Were you seeing a lot of integrated Hegel products? When I had the 300, there was just no comparison, sonically, to the H30 (and a good preamp). I found the integrated quirky with its volume gain too. I wonder about this new H360 and how it compares. Hegel is definitely a company to watch in the future.

I'm still very curious about the Hegel H4S. It's very very popular in the Asian market.
 
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Just curious here. I usually judge how good a component is by how many you can find up for sale. There are plenty of items that once purchased, are never resold or flipped. That usually says that the purchase was a good one and there was no need to sell it right off.

I did a HiFi Shark search on Integrated Amplifier and other than the Mass Market brands, it looked like there were way more Hegel Integrateds up for sale than any other High End or Entry Level HE brands.

Thoughts?
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6 weeks ago this was being said of Devialet product, but today on Audiogon I only see 1 current piece, used from a dealer. So maybe its statistical timing and not a market perception of quality; your metric may be flawed. You'd also need to know how many have been sold, since it would be rate rather than quantity which would tell your story.
 
I think most of the Hegel you see for sale is the integrated's - they are far more common then the separates are used. I believe this is largely due to the fact that in the past year and half Hegel intro'd the Hegel H160 and most recently the H360 - both are great components and the addition of a direct Ethernet connection is a must have if you stream.

The H160 & H360 is the reason you see people upgrading from the Hegel H80 (as I did) and the H300 (as many are) and of course I could upgrade from the H160 to the H360 however am happy with the H160 as it has all of the power I need whereas I did find the H80 a tad lacking.

It is possible that some may be selling as they are unhappy to discover the more recently disclosed news that Hegel is manufactured in China as many dealers were pushing the made in Norway angle when they purchased. This is not a big deal to me but it is for some people and Hegel was not at all transparent on this point.

Hope I don't sound like too much like a Hegel fanboy.
 
I know there are more than a few Hegel H30 sellers who sorry they sold them. I know that I am. it was a wonderful match to my Strads and Harbeth 40.1 with my CJ GAT (ARC or McIntosh preamps too). Live and learn.
 
Joe.......If the Hegel H30 is that good, why not purchase it again? There have been a couple components I owned, sold, missed, and repurchased. They were that good. My thinking is, if you miss a component but don't purchase another, you don't really miss it as much as you might think.
 
Hi Dan,

I know what you mean. My GAT was a double purchase. I have the Bryston 28's now and love them as much as the Hegel, probably more so. If I did a side by side comparison, the results might be different. Sometimes I move on because of the ease of doing it and the excitement of trying new gear. If I good deal presents itself, I might jump.

You might like this though, I am a little focused on some McIntosh amps. I'm like a shark, I have to keep moving to stay alive :)


Double-D said:
Joe.......If the Hegel H30 is that good, why not purchase it again? There have been a couple components I owned, sold, missed, and repurchased. They were that good. My thinking is, if you miss a component but don't purchase another, you don't really miss it as much as you might think.
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joeinid said:
Hi Dan,

I know what you mean. My GAT was a double purchase. I have the Bryston 28's now and love them as much as the Hegel, probably more so. If I did a side by side comparison, the results might be different. Sometimes I move on because of the ease of doing it and the excitement of trying new gear. If I good deal presents itself, I might jump.

You might like this though, I am a little focused on some McIntosh amps. I'm like a shark, I have to keep moving to stay alive :)
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Joe.......I fully understand the excitement of shiny fresh faced components showing up in my systems. The thrill of the hunt and the exhilaration of the conquest can be quite addictive.......and expensive. I have seen some serious money sift through my hands like sand through an hour glass as box after box of audio components arrived and exited my home. I have settled down these past two years as I finally hit the combinations that thoroughly scratch my audio itch, so to speak. I am at a place now where I have no desire to alter anything. My bank account is happier, too.
 
I noticed a ton Auralic Vegas on the used market last month. A lot DirectStreams going up for sale also as we speak.

Agreed, the less you see on the second hand market, the better!
 
Simple

All the Hegel integrated are dumped for this weeks favourite, the JOB integrated. :congrats::yahoo1:
 
Smile said:
6 weeks ago this was being said of Devialet product, but today on Audiogon I only see 1 current piece, used from a dealer. So maybe its statistical timing and not a market perception of quality
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No...there's a story, that goes with the influx...and then void...of the Devialet :sneaky:
 
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