schmidtmike76
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Lumin mini with sbooster via Siltech golden ridge 2 AES into a Bryston BDA3. If I put this Siltech cable on a new bryston CD3 which one would win for straight up sound quality.
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Streaming vs dedicated CD player
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At this time, I don't know of any high end streamer that beats a high end CD / SACD player. IMO, while streaming can be VERY good (I use Aurender) CDs are still better. But IMO the gap is getting closer and closer....
PS: I rip all my CDs using an ACS10, but the CDs - and SACDs which won’t rip on a ACS10 - are still better than any rip. Ultimately, CDs sound better than streaming.
PS: I rip all my CDs using an ACS10, but the CDs - and SACDs which won’t rip on a ACS10 - are still better than any rip. Ultimately, CDs sound better than streaming.
I cannot tell a difference when playing a Disc or when playing a ripped file from that CD. So I personally decided not bother with a CD player anymore.
Moreover, with the right set up, you can stream any CD-quality signal (16/44) up-sample it and/or convert to DSD (what SACD discs use), plus add digital FIR filters (including Room correction filters) of your choice. And you can see all of the album material and never have to get out of your seat to change the music. No CD player that I know at any price can do all that.
Randy Myers
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I rip any CD or SACD. Not only for sound quality but for convenience to play from my server. More important anything from my server is played through HQPlayer and up sampled to DSD512, sounding better than any spinner will play the disk in my view.
CD would win.
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the professor
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To me this all depends on the DAC. I know of no DAC in any CD player that will compete with the current SOTA DACs/network players that are out there. Not because they couldn't, just that's not where the manufacturers are putting their best DACs.
If we are talking about a CD spinner that only send digital to a DAC then -- every combo will be a different story. You really need to listen to each and decide which one you prefer.
If we are talking about a CD spinner that only send digital to a DAC then -- every combo will be a different story. You really need to listen to each and decide which one you prefer.
schmidtmike76
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I’m looking for a back up or alternative to streaming for that moment when my old iMac dies or I have a Roon issue etc. I stream wirelessly from another room where my old 08 iMac runs Roon streams it to my router in my cave. From the router it’s Ethernet to the lumin. Zero issues over the last year no lags etc but still would like a back up. With my bryston BDA3 I probably should look for just a decent cheaper transport.
SimAudio makes a stand alone CD transport which would feed right into your BDA3. We sell it for $2000.
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Puma Cat
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Mike,
Are you looking for an alternative to your iMac to function as a music server/Roon core?
If so, I'd go with an Intel NUC or perhaps a SonicTransporter from Sonore.
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There are a number of very high end DACs that can be fed by CD transports from the same brand (e.g., dCS, EMM, MSB), thus taking DAC differences out of a comparison equation.
schmidtmike76
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im so dumb with computers I have no idea what they are lol hence the CD player back up. But I will look. To be honest my 08 iMac hasn’t gave me one ounce of grief. I have also been told even though it’s maxed out for processing power it does not affect sound quality. If that’s the case I’m in no rush.
Randy Myers
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When a computer is being pushed very hard it definitely affects the sound quality. Most playback software is CPU dependent so being maxed out is not a good thing. People who do not know will say it doesn't. but then again people say that cables make no difference also, so to each their own
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W9TR
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I did an experiment awhile back, comparing my MCD 1100 playing RBCD’s into my Yggdrasil via AES/XLR and the identical song played via SurfacePro 3 USB into Yggy Unison USB input. The SurfacePro 3 was running on its batteries and the files were on its internal hard drive.
I could not tell any difference between the two using a standard set of tracks I use to audition new gear. I’ve heard these tracks hundreds of times.
Now this is pretty good gear, certainly not at the level many of the folks here enjoy, so I can easily see how others may come to different conclusions.
I could not tell any difference between the two using a standard set of tracks I use to audition new gear. I’ve heard these tracks hundreds of times.
Now this is pretty good gear, certainly not at the level many of the folks here enjoy, so I can easily see how others may come to different conclusions.
Were you playing the CD rip against the CD? For fun, play Tidal or QoBuz 16/44 against them CD. I found this to be quite different.
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Mike Lavigne
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When a computer is being pushed very hard it definitely affects the sound quality. Most playback software is CPU dependent so being maxed out is not a good thing. People who do not know will say it doesn't. but then again people say that cables make no difference also, so to each their own
you are 100% right that it's a challenge for server makers to overcome. but......there are servers and dacs now (at higher price points for sure) that have met and overcome the processing power and heat issues that were real processing limitations until very recently. maybe investigate the Taiko Extreme server. it is a 99 pound music server. ninety nine pounds for a computer!!!
SGM EXTREME – Taiko Audio
i've owned one for a year. these are heavily back ordered taking a few months to get.
my point being that if you want digital gear that is not stressed by getting pushed hard they exist. but it will cost you.
u-sound
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did you ever had the chance to hear theyr alsyvox speakers?
why did you give the server away after a year?
why did you give the server away after a year?
W9TR
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I was playing the CD rip against the CD.
I’ve tried Tidal and Amazon Music comparisons against CD’s and the results are sometimes so wacky that the mastering must be totally different.
Other times they are close but the CD’s sound better. I have really slow internet speeds at both our houses so that may be a contributing factor.
I’ve tried Tidal and Amazon Music comparisons against CD’s and the results are sometimes so wacky that the mastering must be totally different.
Other times they are close but the CD’s sound better. I have really slow internet speeds at both our houses so that may be a contributing factor.
Mike Lavigne
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sorry if my writing was not clear, i still own my Extreme Server and love it to death. Emile (the designer/builder) visited me in my room last November. i do own multiple Taiko products.....and have known Emile and Ed for a few years.
not visited the Netherlands ever, but would love to. two years ago i did hear the Alsyvox at RMAF and was impressed. i recommended them to a local friend who did buy them. great speaker.
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When a computer is being pushed very hard it definitely affects the sound quality. Most playback software is CPU dependent so being maxed out is not a good thing. People who do not know will say it doesn't. but then again people say that cables make no difference also, so to each their own
Are you running Windows?