Shunyata Omega Interconnects and Speaker Cables

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I just watched the Altair grounding system marketing video. I thought I saw an Omega XLR coming out of the amps in Shunyata’s listening room.

Further, a posting on another forum seemed to spill the beans that these are indeed coming soon.

I wanted to start a thread for these new flagships. I’m sure they won’t be cheap but, offer a great value proposition as do all Shunyata’s products.
 
Mike said:
We’ve had them for months. [emoji6]


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Nice. When are you allowed to write about them? :cool:

I assume Shunyata doesn't want to take away from the new Grounding products. At least for the next few months.
 
mdp632 said:
Nice. When are you allowed to write about them? :cool:

I assume Shunyata doesn't want to take away from the new Grounding products. At least for the next few months.
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Like a crystal clear window into the music. We were stunned by the upgrade over the Sigma V2’s. The IC between the dac and pre was jaw dropping difference. I didn’t think they would be THAT much better than Sigma V2.


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Mike said:
Like a crystal clear window into the music. We were stunned by the upgrade over the Sigma V2’s. The IC between the dac and pre was jaw dropping difference. I didn’t think they would be THAT much better than Sigma V2.


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Thanks. But, what about the speaker cables? :-) I was curious if Caelin and team implemented their QR/BB tech on the Omega speaker cables.

Somehow (if technically possible) to deliver the same benefits as it does to power cables.

For speaker cables, transferring the current from the amplifier to driver using that QR/BB tech.

Looking forward to reading more about these as time goes on.
 
mdp632 said:
I was curious if Caelin and team implemented their QR/BB tech on the Omega speaker cables.

Somehow (if technically possible) to deliver the same benefits as it does to power cables.
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QR/BB "specificaly improves the performance of the power suplies commonly used in consumer electronic devices. These power suplies specificaly convert AC to DC". It "operates only in a power system where current is drawn in pulses" and it "must be positioned immediately prior to an AC input for the AC-to-DC power supply".

I got that from the patent. So, no, it doesn't appear that that QR/BB can end up in their speaker cable as it solves a particular problem for an AC-to-DC power supply.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/57/ed/34/08f7cac5144852/US10031536.pdf
 
kennyb123 said:
QR/BB "specificaly improves the performance of the power suplies commonly used in consumer electronic devices. These power suplies specificaly convert AC to DC". It "operates only in a power system where current is drawn in pulses" and it "must be positioned immediately prior to an AC input for the AC-to-DC power supply".

I got that from the patent. So, no, it doesn't appear that that QR/BB can end up in their speaker cable as it solves a particular problem for an AC-to-DC power supply.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/57/ed/34/08f7cac5144852/US10031536.pdf
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Thanks.

That said, it will interesting to read as what tech the Omega line has over Sigma V2.

As an MIT user myself, I'm curious if Shunyata's tech has been able to make the networked cable (MIT, Transparent) a moot point if you will.
 
mdp632 said:
As an MIT user myself, I'm curious if Shunyata's tech has been able to make the networked cable (MIT, Transparent) a moot point if you will.
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It’s extremely rare to see reviews of cables that include meaningful measurements. These guys seem to have done exactly that:

Alpha Audio NET - Megatest speaker cables – real measurements, samples and blind test!

I think this gives us some insights into how well these competing technologies actually perform. Unfortunately the measurements only just scratch the surface though, so there’s only so much we can glean.

Most impressive to me is the square wave reproduction that Shunyata achieved with Venom X. Most disappointing to me, as one who uses MIT speaker cables, it how poorly that MIT cable did with this. Transparent did a lot better.

I realize that I haven’t actually addressed your point. I guess all I’m suggesting is that maybe Shunyata and others aren’t aiming to make networks moot as they feel there are bigger fish to fry. Regardless Shunyata seems to have hit the ball out of the park with Venom X. We should expect them to hit the ball out of our galaxy with the Omega signal cables.

I’d imagine there’d be more extensive use of their existing technologies like TAP and HARP in the Omega vs the Sigma.
 
mdp632 said:
Here we go… Wow!

OMEGA Speaker Cables - Shunyata Research
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Whoa...those look insane.

Also comes with 8 of the new cable elevator design, too.

Just looked up some of the technical specs at the SR website....

Not only HARP technology, but "quad-HARP" technology....hmm. I know from my Alpha V2s that the HARP technology is amazing, but I can only imagine what "quad-HARP" must be like.

Also, the Omega speaker cables have the TAP (trans-axial polarizer) technology. This is the first implementation of TAP on a speaker cable, AFAIK. Just a single TAP device on an IC is pretty remarkable, so this must be really something on a speaker cable. If I were to hazard a guess, given that TAP is along the "mid-part" of an IC cable, maybe the big dual modules on the middle are the TAP devices? 🤔

Omega-SP-TAP.jpg


Also, just did some screen grabs from the Alpha Audio NET speaker cable review test data. Here's the 20KHz square wave plots...

MIT Evo 3
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Transparent Plus
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Chord Epic XL. Some notable ringing...
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Shunyata Venom X
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We used these at the show. They are next level.


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Ooops. $25K MSRP for 2.5m length Omega speaker. I'm sure they'll be great, but that is a lot of money for wire.
 
Very expensive, especially when you look how the Venom X graph looks in Puma's post, what is there to be improved. (I know this is just a 20Khz measurement)

I believe the venom x speakercable is non shielded, is that correct ?
 
Clearly SOTA. Will be compared to Dragon, Odin 2 etc...

In that regard MSRP wise, Omega (Like other Shunyata products) are a "Value" compared to the above

What does the above square wave response mean to the listener?

Is it the rise and fall time of a signal?

Start and stop of the music etc..?
 
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