Monitor distance?

Petro85

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What's a general rule for the distance between monitors and the distance from the listener. I tried to find that info on my r300's but I can't find it anywhere. My speaker stands are very heavy and a pain to move around with the spikes and bases . So I'd like to set them in a better spot . Then I can just toe them in and out without moving the stands. Thanks
 
I would assume an equilateral triangle is a good place to start. As far away from you as they are from each other and tweak as necessary.
 
Personally I like to be about 1.25X farther away from them as they are apart. But it's a personal pref thing. Although with the Raidho's, I need to be closer in.
 
I'd like to bring the speakers a little closer. Up to now it's been easier to move the couch.
I also have a big huge coffee table in the middle I'd like to get rid of.
 
It depends of so many factors.

* Size of your room.
* Size of your speakers.
* What kind of driver's dispersion.
* Room treatments or not.
* Subwoofer(s) or not.
* What kind of soundstage you personally prefer.
* Near-field, Mid-field, or Far-field listening position.
* Width and Depth of the soundstage.
* ...And all that jazz.

BEST: Experiment. :)
 
...And you can go truly 'anal' (mathematically speaking), or you can high-ball instinctively by feel alone (comfort zone). ...Or a mix of both.

If you want some hints from me; tell me some about your room, size of your speakers, type of music you like, volume level you are comfy and satisfy with, other furniture in that room.

In general, for full range (or tower type) speakers, seven to ten feet distance between them is about right.
And sitting between seven to fifteen feet from them is somewhere around there.

More precisely, for normal tower speakers; 8-9 feet separation between them, and 9-12 feet sitting from them. That's far-field. ...Wide and far enough for the music to gel well together (imaging) during Jazz bands playing, Blues bands, and Classical Chamber music. ...Time arrivals (to your ears). ...Realistic soundstage (width) and depth of field (holography) in a 3-dimensional audio perspective (illusion or magic). :)

For full Classical Orchestral music (Symphonies, Operas, ...); best is very big speakers, widely separated (10 feet+), and 12-15 feet sitting from them. ...Wide-field.

Near-field; from your PC or Mac.

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Good rules:

- Away from the front wall (3 feet plus; best 5 feet); the rear of your speakers to the front wall.
- Away from the side walls (2 feet plus; 3+ better); and toe-in if your walls are untreated and quite reflective (windows are bad).
- Sitting away from the back wall; always (at least 3-4 feet; 5 feet better).
- The rule of thirds and fifths comes beneficial too.
- The lowest driver in your towers; you don't want it to be the same distance from the floor as to the side wall (measured from its voice-coil).
- And the same is true from the front wall (in case they have to be positioned very close to it).
- Off-center from the two room's middle lines (length and width) is best to not sit there; avoid at any cost (rule of thirds, fifths, sevenths, ... again comes to play).
- If your ceiling is 8 feet high, you don't want your ears at four feet height.
- The amount of toe-in or not will determine the amount of reflections, dispersion, and directivity.
- Even the amount of toe-in vertically can have an important effect (related to your ears' height and height of tweeter/midrange drivers).
- Spikes on carpet are good practice.
- A laser is a good tool.
- Experimentation is also the best tool of them all (your own set of ears).
- But some basic acoustic laws are the first foundation of audio equilibrium (balance).
- An equal amount of low, mid, and high frequencies arriving to your ears at the same time and in phase are key to comfortable auditioning (music listening).
- The quality of the music recording selections are as much as important than everything just above.
 
Wow!!! Thanks Bob !! Very informative. Ill shift some stuff around. Once my amps arrive I will set it back up and take some pics.
 
Steve, that coffee table, if you want to keep it; simply cover it with a nice decorative material. ...Light Morocco carpet, or Afghan rug ....

...So it won't reflect the sound if it's made of wood or glass.

BUT! If it is a "beautiful" coffee table made of gorgeous, or exotic wood; position it closer to the main listening area than the front speakers.
 
Actually it's a door from one of those tall ships that were built in the 1700's.
3 inch thick tongue and groove gorgeous teak with huge brass hinges( I left em on both sides)
And a big brass port hole in it. With a skeleton key hole(my favorite part.)And i made a sweet base for it.oh yea i also sanded it and put 10 coats of poly on it.I love the table . But I know it's too big and bouncy, sound wise.
So it'll probably end up in the back room with the rest of the furniture that I build and have no use for. But that's a story for a whole other thread. Lol .
 
Your call. :)

* I had a hunch that it was a very "special" table. ...And indeed it really is! :cool: ...Picture?

no problem Bob, ill pretend like i just saw this and not that it took me couple days to get all the crap off the table.lol. heres a few shots of the table then my overall acoustical nitemare of a room

Anything between you & the speakers is not a good thing...
i know, but i love this table, goeswith my brass propeller/ship wheel end tables. lol. im gonna ditch it soon ittakes up too much room:blush:
 

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Well I took your advice Bob. The coffee table is still there,mostly because it weighs 150lbs and i dont want to hurt my bad shoulder moving it. but I moved the speakers a little closer together to about 7ft apart. And closer to the listening position about 8-9 ft
That brought the speakers about 3ft off the back wall. I also toed them into cross planes right behind my head. What a difference!!!!!! It took a hair of bass out but not enough to notice, but the imaging and the soundstage became way way better.
Great to have such knowledgable people around here .... Thanks
 
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