Magico M2 vs M3

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I heard the M2 and was very impressed by it but I wonder about the M3. At least one listener heard both and actually felt the M2 was the superior speaker!

"I used M Project before but changed to M6 for over a year.

I have heard S7 and M3 in a few occasions, such as in dealer showroom and in HiFi Show. M3 is much more refined and has higher resolution. Don’t be fouled by its relatively small cabinet size. It has a very big sound and very strong bass.

Also just heard M2 in Munich Hiend Show in two rooms. M2 is actually better than M3, it has all the advantages of M3 but has a warmer sound. The resolution is even higher. Until you have a fairly large room, such as over 800 sq ft, M2 is the speaker of choice.

M2 uses carbon fibre monocoque cabinet, while M3 is more traditional aluminium. This is exactly the same difference for M6 and M Project.

M6 has a warmer sound and more detailed presentation than M Project. This difference goes to M2 vs M3 as well."
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Has anyone here heard both? What do you think ?
 
smodtactical said:
I heard the M2 and was very impressed by it but I wonder about the M3. At least one listener heard both and actually felt the M2 was the superior speaker!



Has anyone here heard both? What do you think ?
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I have both in the store. It’s common to think the new one is superior. It’s great, but the M3 plays bigger, plays louder, plays in a bigger room and has a more “weighty” sound. The M2 does a better disappearing act and is easier to move around and its size is more “manageable”.


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M3 cabinet
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The M2 cabinet will get the same internal bracing and midrange cone compartment as the M3 in finishing.


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Mike said:
I have both in the store. It’s common to think the new one is superior. It’s great, but the M3 plays bigger, plays louder, plays in a bigger room and has a more “weighty” sound. The M2 does a better disappearing act and is easier to move around and its size is more “manageable”.


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This is super helpful Mike. I know that we've talked a bit about moving me into an M2 or M3 (now if only the money would magically appear).

I wanted to point out that this is really reassuring as a Magico customer, overall. Just because the speaker is newer doesn't mean that someone who ordered an M3 the day before the M2 is announced should feel like they screwed up. Too many brands release models with incremental changes that leave older customers hanging out to dry. I'm glad to see Magico making amazing speakers and pushing the envelope while still giving buyers piece of mind about the quality of their purchase. Point being, if you made an amazing speaker last year and an amazing speaker this year, the older one should not sound "broken".
 
Mike said:
The M2 cabinet will get the same internal bracing and midrange cone compartment as the M3 in finishing.


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So that internal metal framework/grid is also in the M2?

Apparently the carbon fiber is made by Apex composites in Canada who do carbon fiber for F1 race cars.
 
So I had a chat with my local magico dealer. He said that actually the M2 is a more advanced speaker than the M3 because of the speaker design. The M3 would mainly be for people with big spaces that like to play loud. M2 is more versatile and even in a big space does well especially with subs. The big thing is he said its easier to manage being under 200 lbs so no one or no speaker gets hurt during installation.
 
smodtactical said:
So I had a chat with my local magico dealer. He said that actually the M2 is a more advanced speaker than the M3 because of the speaker design. The M3 would mainly be for people with big spaces that like to play loud. M2 is more versatile and even in a big space does well especially with subs. The big thing is he said its easier to manage being under 200 lbs so no one or no speaker gets hurt during installation.
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Does your dealer have both? [emoji6]

I do.


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smodtactical said:
He said that actually the M2 is a more advanced speaker than the M3 because of the speaker design.
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He may be referring specifically to the carbon fiber monocoque enclosure, which is only found in the M2 and M6. The M3 has carbon fiber side panels but the main enclosure structure is the aluminum frame. Magico's own description of the enclosure differences leans towards the monocoque design as superior.
 
NekoAudio said:
He may be referring specifically to the carbon fiber monocoque enclosure, which is only found in the M2 and M6. The M3 has carbon fiber side panels but the main enclosure structure is the aluminum frame. Magico's own description of the enclosure differences leans towards the monocoque design as superior.
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It’s definitely a benefit, but the bigger cabinet size and extra driver or the M3 really gives it a weightier sound and fills a bigger room.


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Mike said:
It’s definitely a benefit, but the bigger cabinet size and extra driver or the M3 really gives it a weightier sound and fills a bigger room.
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Absolutely. The enclosure design is only one of the aspects to take into consideration.
 
Hello,

I'm considering a pair of M2.

I own a Naim 500DR series system.

After seeing the impedance curve of the Magico M2, I believe the NAP 500 DR won't be sufficient and won't be able to drive those speakers properly.

Has anyone tried driving those speakers with such a system?

Cheers :)
 
I am using a Naim 500 system on my M2s - and no problem at all. Sounds great at any volume.

You won't have any problems.

I did use a NAP 250 for a while and it definitely gave out at high volumes. But worked great at normal loud volumes. Yes - I tend to play loud!
 
the professor said:
I am using a Naim 500 system on my M2s - and no problem at all. Sounds great at any volume.

You won't have any problems.

I did use a NAP 250 for a while and it definitely gave out at high volumes. But worked great at normal loud volumes. Yes - I tend to play loud!
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The reason I'm asking about how well the NAP 500 DR is able to drive those speakers refers to a recent HiFi Critic review.

Unfortunately, I can't post the URL, but the review is the first link if you google for "HifiCritic magico m2"

The Test Results on page 12 seem to suggest that the NAP 500 DR struggles to drive the M2s at louder volumes.

And graphs presented show that the Magico M2 has a really bumpy impedance curve, which tend to confirm they need a lot of current at certain frequencies :|
 
How does one replace tweeters if you blow one on a M2/3/6/9 ?

It has been mentioned on other forum that you must send back to Magico, which must be incorrect surely?
 
When he says "...we remain some distance from the creation of a fully convincing sense of reality generated by a sound reproducing system" I disagree with him. Last night I was thoroughly immersed in a convincing sense of reality.
 
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