Apple Music Hifi

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According to the latest news, Apple is launching soon its lossless music service but also hires (24/192kHz). The service would be announced in early June. it looks like Lumin will release a new firmware that includes new music services before summer.

Would Apple music be this new music service? My head is spinning :rolleyes:
 
We are working on Spotify HiFi.

Please use AirPlay to play Apple Music to Lumin.
 
Spotify HiFi and Apple HiFi could spell trouble for QoBuz and Tidal.

Just saying...


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Apple Music is likely to quickly dwarf the current music streaming services in the same way Disney Plus is already the largest video streaming service with well over 100 million subscribers.

I respectfully suggest that Lumin “back burner” its effort to port Spotify HiFi and commence work focused on Apple Music.
 
Mike said:
Spotify HiFi and Apple HiFi could spell trouble for QoBuz and Tidal.

Just saying...


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Totally agree. To go one step further, Spotify Hi-Fi can also spell trouble for Roon.
Many Roon users use it for streaming Tidal or Qobuz only. If those users move to Spotify, they will not need Roon anymore.
Of course users could still use Roon to manage and listen to their local library.
 
Mike said:
Spotify HiFi and Apple HiFi could spell trouble for QoBuz and Tidal.
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These threats are huge.


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That graph is scary, and really points out the danger. Spotify is, at least, a music only business. The other 2 big shots started the music business to drive sales of other things. The Qobuz and Tidal user go in the “others” category, I assume.

I know my wife and children (in their 30s) all use Spotify. I use Qobuz with Roon, and Audivana, so that graph looks worse in my family.
 
for the audiophile community i think the important thing to watch is what apple does with integration. i can't see apple music hifi being relevant if audiophiles can't use it with the variety of hi-end streamers, transports, networked DACs, servers, computers, etc. in their systems which utilize the various proprietary and subscription software that access and run those components.

if apple creates a closed system then apple music hi-res will be somewhat irrelevant to the hi-end community. OTOH, if they create an API for 3rd party integration which provides for music streaming then that is something for the smaller hi-res services to contend with.

to date, as part of their business strategy an apple device or apple software (app) is needed to stream apple music, unless there is something of which i am unaware.

note: there is currently an apple music API; however, it only accesses information about the media found in the apple music catalog and the user's personal iCloud music library -- i.e. just the meta-data.
 
aKnyght said:
for the audiophile community i think the important thing to watch is what apple does with integration. i can't see apple music hifi being relevant if audiophiles can't use it with the variety of hi-end streamers, transports, networked DACs, servers, computers, etc. in their systems which utilize the various proprietary and subscription software that access and run those components.

if apple creates a closed system then apple music hi-res will be somewhat irrelevant to the hi-end community. OTOH, if they create an API for 3rd party integration which provides for music streaming then that is something for the smaller hi-res services to contend with.

to date, as part of their business strategy an apple device or apple software (app) is needed to stream apple music, unless there is something of which i am unaware.

note: there is currently an apple music API; however, it only accesses information about the media found in the apple music catalog and the user's personal iCloud music library -- i.e. just the meta-data.
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In the same way Apple TV is available on other brand's televisions, it's only a matter of time before the Apple Music app is native on streaming devices. I was actually under the impression it already was, but I guess it might only be Airplay compatibility which leaves out hi-res, for now.
 
Apple made it official this morning. Apple will provide lossless audio (including Dolby Atmos) at no extra cost. Today, Amazon followed up announcing a price drop for their lossless tier. Now the pressure will be on Spotify to deliver on lossless audio and not raise their prices.
Both Tidal and Qobuz will be under the gun to lower their prices. Getting more interesting by the minute!
 
My prediction is that TIDAL will soon be history. QoBuz might survive with most of its revenue coming from downloads.

A silver lining? All the controversy about MQA may also disappear along with TIDAL.
 
KeithR said:
Apple Music has always been terrible. Even my non-audiophile friends all use Spotify.
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How so?
The apps are almost identical on my phone; Ease of use is the same to me.
I think Spotify had a somewhat deeper catalog of music at one point and has Spotify Connect on some streamers though until they offer hi res and lossless, I'll continue to use Qobuz.
 
Interestingly enough, none of the most popular streaming services (Apple Music, Amazon, Spotify) work well with local files (the music that folks have in their computer/NAS/hard-drive). Incidentally, neither do Tidal or Qobuz!

That is where software like Roon comes into play. Roon does an excellent job of managing and integrating BOTH your local library AND the library/playlists from a streaming service.

I would not be surprised if one of the big boys in its quest to offer a differentiator, end up acquiring Roon in the process.
 
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