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September 13, 2014, 11:11 AM #1
My P3ESR's....
I could not resist the temptation any longer to try my P3ESR's in one of my other system.
So I tried them in the DeVore Super 8's system. The room is huge and opened everywhere. A nightmare for any speaker.
And guess what happened ?
While the Super 8's could hardly qualify for the ideal stand for little bookshelf speakers, the P3ESR's killed my beloved Devore's ! What would happen with dedicated stands ??
And they did not only killed them. They burried them. And they started to shout everywhere that DeVore Super 8's are a lie.
Do you know how the french lovers club of the LS3/5 A speaker call it ? The " Bitch ".
Why ? Because it kills every other speaker you put next to her.
I won't detail the sound and why I do not want to listen to the Super 8's anymore since I got the P3ESR.
The ones who want to know will have to listen to both of them in my house.
Amplifier is the MAC1500 receiver with NOS RCA 7591 tubes. An integrated which uses a simplified version of the MC 225 amplifier. Very similar to the MA230 integrated.
Source is the Rega P9 TT, with DENON DL103 Expert Stylus Co. And Auditorium 23 Standard 103 SUT.
Please do not misunderstand me.
DeVore Super 8's are great great speakers.
Harbeth P3ESR's are just MUCH MUCH better to my ears. Their performance is simply out of this world.
Thanks for reading.
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September 13, 2014, 11:39 AM #2
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Jerome...I highly recommend these stands, with Harbeth http://www.tyleracoustics.com/Images...s/standslg.jpg
I had a pair with my Compact 7s, and they are sweet!CD
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September 13, 2014, 11:46 AM #3
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September 13, 2014, 12:53 PM #4
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September 13, 2014, 01:04 PM #6
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Great Jerome
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September 13, 2014, 01:44 PM #7
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September 13, 2014, 01:46 PM #8
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Jerome. Please do detail the sound for us...
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September 13, 2014, 01:59 PM #9
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September 13, 2014, 02:36 PM #10
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Ok Chris.
Just for Audioshark.
The first difference is in the coherence.
With the P3, you really get the feeling that you are listening to only one driver.
Second difference : the Mids. The Harbeths just smoke the DeVore's here. Listening again to the Super 8's, all the transparency vanishes. You get the feeling that a very thick wool cover was put on the speaker. The resolution, the clarity, the finesse : disappeared.
Third difference : the bass. The DeVore's need a wall behind them to produce decent bass. The P3ESR do not care. Moreover even when compared to the bass of the Super 8's in optimal position, the bass of the P3 is fullest, deepest, and with a better slam. How do they do produce such a quality bass from such a tiny box and driver ?? I have zero clue.
4th difference : Weight and Image. When you listen yo the P3, you get the impression to listen to a much bigger speaker than the Super 8's. Again, I have no idea how they can do that.
5th difference : richness and finesse of timbres. Night and day difference. From bass to treble.
Sorry to say that because I will have to sell the Super 8's now : they just sound like a Walt Mart system compared to the P3ESR's.
Sorry John if you read me.
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September 13, 2014, 03:09 PM #11
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Jerome
Like CD said, those Tyler's are very good stands. I bought a pair about ten years ago for use with the Reynaud Trente and still have them. Just curious since they are native to you if you have listened to any of the Reynaud speakers and your opinion of them especially compared to Harbeth, Spendor, Devore, etc.
Jack
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September 13, 2014, 03:40 PM #12
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September 13, 2014, 03:52 PM #13
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I listened to a few JMR and was never able to fall in love with them. I did not listen to the Offrande though.
The bass was good, especially when using a transmission line. Clarity was great. But they did not "sing" to me.
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September 13, 2014, 04:13 PM #14
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I owned at one time the Twins, Trente and the 4th version of the Offrande that was reviewed in ETM and PF. I still plan on buying the newest (7th) version the Offrande Supreme V2 latter in the year.
Paul I am still not sure why there is not a dealer in Canada. Maybe you can convince one of your dealer "friends" to contact Bob or Mr. Reynaud and bring a pair in for a test drive.
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September 13, 2014, 04:16 PM #15
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Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts!
Chris
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September 13, 2014, 04:57 PM #16
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So on a scale of 1 to 10, somewhere around 23? Delish.
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September 13, 2014, 06:01 PM #17
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I think I mentioned the something solid stands to you before, but they seem a very popular combination among UK owners, but I suspect Alan Shaw is right, just get the tweeters at ear hight and enjoy!
Great write up, and I'd agree with what you said on the other thread about tubes, they really bring out the best. I had my Accuphase E450 driving mine briefly during some room rearrangement, and while I totally understand why many would love the combination, to my ears the ability of the Harbeths respond best to valves. Both voices and guitar take on a naturalness that I don't imagine tiring of! One of several reasons my new pre is a Croft is that Glenn apparently uses Harbeths to voice his amps, and they do indeed pair remarkably well. Seems we can still do some things right in Britain
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September 13, 2014, 06:09 PM #18
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September 13, 2014, 06:30 PM #19
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Great Choice Jeromé --yes while the Devores are very good Speakers
I agree with you the Harbeths are another class.
Bruce
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September 13, 2014, 07:07 PM #20
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September 13, 2014, 08:19 PM #22
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Jerome,
No love at Harbeth. Might as well try hereDALE
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September 13, 2014, 10:36 PM #23
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September 14, 2014, 03:47 AM #25
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That's just classic British reserve And most of them won't have heard any Devore speakers, as far as I know there's only one outlet here, and seeing as we can't buy the green amps they tend to be mentioned with legally, they don't get much comment on our forums etc. If it wasn't for reading the Shindo boards here or that *friendly* forum I'd never have come across them, which is a shame!
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September 14, 2014, 11:10 AM #26
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Here is a dissenting opinion. I will qualify it by saying that I have not heard the Harbeth P3ESR speakers. I have owned Harbeth SHL5 (for about 6 months) and currently own Devore Gibbon 9s (I sold the Harbeths after listening to the Devore Nines). I have also owned Devore Gibbon Super 8s in the past. While the Harbeths ruled the midrange, the Devore speakers come really close to the Harbeth's magic in the midrange. My Devore Nines easily outclass the Harbeth SHL5s in dynamics/frequency extremes. I have found the Devore Nines to be the better balanced speaker. I will admit that the devore Nines are on a different level compared to the Super 8s.
Devore Nines will give you the same amazing results whether you use tube amplfication or high quality solid state --expensive Shindo amplification is not a requirement at all.
Anshul
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September 14, 2014, 11:14 AM #27
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DALE
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September 14, 2014, 11:23 AM #28
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September 14, 2014, 11:32 AM #29
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Interesting thoughts. I've had the Super 8 and Nines and found them to be a bit lean for my taste. As I wrote at length years ago, I made the Nines work for me with an Air Tight el34. Never heard the Harbeth...just my thoughts on a perceived midrange leaness.
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September 14, 2014, 11:33 AM #30
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Jerome,
Great discovery with your P3ESR's, but in my mind they deserve a better stand still, and as someone whom has been using Sound Anchors stands in one form or another since 1994, and have 3 each of their Amp/Rack Stands and Speaker Stands, I've come to rely on them as placed under any of the Mini-Monitors I've owned since then as a means of getting the very best from them - period.
Anyways, here's my proof, from an ad I've via Audio Trader, where you'll see both pairs of stands I currently have:
Sound Anchors 3 Post Monitor Stands - Audio Asylum Trader
As these are custom made to the exact size of the speakers dimensions as well as to your overall listening height, just how many companies offer said service, of course you can go all out an look into a pair of the Music Tool - Tool One Stands made to the dimensions of LS 3/5As in general, but they'll cost a great deal more.
Anyways, here's their site:
Signature | Sound Anchors: Specialty Audio Stands | High-End Home,Professional Studio, and Video | Custom Amplifier Stands, Component Stands, Video Stands, Studio Furniture
Enjoy your P3ESRs, and great comparison by the way to the Devore's, I replaced my once beloved pair of Gibbon 3s, with a pair of the original Totem Acoustics Model Ones, and can say I'm much much happier with the trade offs, as well the overall results.
Bein
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September 14, 2014, 11:48 AM #31
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September 14, 2014, 12:07 PM #32
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Je vous en prie Jerome.
Yes, it will prove a harder task to get rid of said Devore's now, but at least now you know the truth of the matter as they relate to their sonic differences and have obvoiusly chosen with your heart on which felt right. And that's all any of us can do - is listen open mindedly and pursue the one which sounds " correct " on an emotional level, as sound effects have very little to do with music purity to begin with.
respecter Jerome.
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September 18, 2014, 02:14 PM #33
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Kev,
You are right about the midrange leaness.
Spot on indeed.
I never heard it like that before but it was obvious in a direct comparison with the Harbeths.
Your option with the Air Tight makes sense.
An EL34 amp will give more meat on the bone on the mids. I have to try my EL34 Jadis amp on them. That should help.
I put them for sale but DeVore is just an eating term in France ! So I may end up keeping them for a very long time....
Thanks a lot for your comments ! !
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September 18, 2014, 02:37 PM #34
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That was sort of my experience...except with PMC, as opposed to DeVore. My admiration for Harbeth, is true. When I first heard P-3s, they changed my mind...about what satisfying audio could be. So much so...I put 7ES-3s in my Main room.
No regrets! I've had P-3s, 2 pairs of Compact 7s; and most recently the 30.1s. ALL...superb in their own way. But listen...anyone who says they Rock their house, has something wrong with their hearing or room
I've yet to find a speaker, that sounds so "natural", "intimate"...or has the "magic" mids of Harbeths. If all you listen to is Jazz, Folk, Vocals, and Acoustic-based music; I don't think they'll leave you wanting. But I needed a bit more "dynamics", as apdoc put it.
When I went from PMC FB1i to my 2nd pair of 7s; it was a tough call, who would stay...and would go. I mused...if I could combine the mids and natural sound of the Harbeths, with the bass and dynamics of the PMC; that would be a special speaker indeed! PMC guys suggested a 3-way; and I have to say...the OB1i was an AWESOME speaker!
I went from them, back to Harbeth...in the 30.1; and now...back to PMC, with FACT 3s. In some ways...the OB1i was a better, all-around, balanced speaker. But the FACTs are haunting...in what they do well; stunningly accurate, revealing...with imaging to die for.
Sure...it probably comes at the cost, of some slam; but so far...I've been able to dealCD
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September 18, 2014, 02:53 PM #35
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Very interesting.
Thanks !
I am a PMC lover.
Lived 2 years with EB1i. Fabulous speakers.
Thought they had the best mids on Earth.
Then Paul told me : IB2i are good. But the mids are not up to the Harbeths. So I bought the 40.1 and my love story with Harbeth began.
PMC mids are really good. One of the very best. Still far from Harbeth imho though.
But PMC has a stunning bass and PRaT.
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September 18, 2014, 02:58 PM #36
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Bingo !!
Kev, I took back the Super 8's in the living room. First try of them with the Jadis amp.
Bingo ! The mids leaness is gone.
Plus those speakers really need a wall behind them to get the meat on the bone.
The mids are still far from Harbeth ( all speakers I heard are like that to my ears ) but if I do not sell the DeVore's I will still be very happy. They are very musical speakers.
But more tough to pair well than the specs alone would suggest. And very sensitive to the room.
I should not forget to add that the MDA1000 in this system also helps a lot for the " meat on the bone". It puts tons of weight in the notes.
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January 18, 2016, 07:34 PM #37
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Jerome,
Remember when a few months back, I sugested you try your P3ESR in a bigger room ?
Guess what - I did just that, lol. I borrowed a pair and put them into my hi-man rig for the first time, where my Magicos used to sit.
They sound AWOSOME ! Crazy good. What a sound from such a small boxes ! The soundstage is vast, they go much louder than they have any right to do, the sound is big, opulent and very 3D. Chet Baker, Belafonte it just sounds so realistic, so ... right.
No, they are not better than Magicos, but at $2k ? This speaker must represent the best value in the whole hi-end.Adam
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January 19, 2016, 04:35 AM #38
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January 19, 2016, 05:39 PM #39
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I tried them on Rogers stands I got with Rogers LS3/5. They are made from metal bars and are very rigid (and quite heavy).
Today I brought home Skylan stands, that Harbeth distributor recommends. Those are much lighter (although filled) and much more wobbly.
Rogers stand:
Skylan:
Spendors P3ESR driven by my MSB 200W Class A monos and Lampi Golden Gate:
Adam
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August 25, 2016, 10:42 AM #40
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I just purchased a pair of P3ESRs for my office system ($1575) - should I consider a stand? No integrated amp yet but what power output should I shoot for? My office size is 20 x 25.
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August 26, 2016, 12:27 PM #41
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I am considering a Heed Obelisk for my P3's, which I bought earlier this month. Another good choice would be the Croft phono integrated.
But if you are doing digital only, maybe the Heed would be the way to go. No tubes, and I thought it sounded very good with the P3's.
I have yet to hear the Croft, but have heard great things about it matched with Harbeth. The listening room I heard the P3's in was
around the size of your room. How much power to go with is a tough call, but my room is a bit smaller than yours. Congrats miner42,
which finish did you get? Cherry for me, but Rosewood is awful nice. My dealer said they did away with Black Ash. so I think the 3's are
only available in Eucalyptus, cherry, and Rosewood…?EMT Tsd-15 SFL/ WTL Amadeus GTA/ A23 Homage T2/ Shindo VR/Shindo D'yquem/Altec Valencia 846A w/ Werner Jagusch Crossover/ DeVore 0/96's/ Lignolab Rack
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August 26, 2016, 03:55 PM #42
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Second hand 9.5/10. Rosewood. I bought some isoacoustic stands recommended by Zero for my desk.
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Adam, why not look for some nice Rogosz stands out of Poland where you are? They are beautiful and well made. I was going to buy a pair in the States for my Trenner & Friedl Art's but didn't feel like spending $1,000 US. They are around half that price in Poland I believe.
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August 27, 2016, 11:57 AM #45
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I should have my on Thursday. ..can't wait!
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August 27, 2016, 05:15 PM #47
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Hì fjn40..! I'm gonna try with my cary sli80 first and if not enough juice will do with 805ae. Also wanna try with me ss amp mc 252...!
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Mmm- 4 6550's producing 80 watts in Ultralinear. I don't know the P3's well, but I would think the Cary would drive it nicely.
I drove Spendor 3/5 R's in a smaller room with an LM 211. This worked well power wise, but was a bit on the darker side.
I did prefer the Ultralinear mode, which was around 35 watts, using 4 EL 34's. I'm looking forward to the Harbeth's.EMT Tsd-15 SFL/ WTL Amadeus GTA/ A23 Homage T2/ Shindo VR/Shindo D'yquem/Altec Valencia 846A w/ Werner Jagusch Crossover/ DeVore 0/96's/ Lignolab Rack
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Thank you for making me feel less tech challenged.:whew: FYI, The 866 works great as a straight, no nonsense integrated with DAC.
Boulder 866 app