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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeCh View Post
    Wow Mike, the upstairs setup looks nicer than I'd imagined. I had a feeling you would try them out upstairs sooner than later

    The system looks great! I can only guess how good it sounds...
    Thanks Mike. As they say, if you're ever in town...
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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Mike, your room would be perfect for a pair of the Zellatons. Try those in that room and you will never want another pair again. An ex customer of mine from the 80's, when I was a dealer, now owns Hi Fi One in Carlsbad Ca. He is only one of two dealers in the US for Kaiser Kawero. I called him about two months ago and talked about the old days.

    He asked me if I was still into the hobby and I told him I had Zellatons. His comment was, "wow, those speakers are as fast as Quads." He said the next time he passes through the Ozarks here, he will stop by and visit.

    The amps I am now using are the DAC Cherry Marashino amps. The synergy on my system is incredible. It is pure magic and the Zellatons just totally disappear.

    Mike, you would even get better sound since your room is superior to mine.

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    Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Quote Originally Posted by ozarktom View Post
    Mike, your room would be perfect for a pair of the Zellatons. Try those in that room and you will never want another pair again. An ex customer of mine from the 80's, when I was a dealer, now owns Hi Fi One in Carlsbad Ca. He is only one of two dealers in the US for Kaiser Kawero. I called him about two months ago and talked about the old days.

    He asked me if I was still into the hobby and I told him I had Zellatons. His comment was, "wow, those speakers are as fast as Quads." He said the next time he passes through the Ozarks here, he will stop by and visit.

    The amps I am now using are the DAC Cherry Marashino amps. The synergy on my system is incredible. It is pure magic and the Zellatons just totally disappear.

    Mike, you would even get better sound since your room is superior to mine.
    I would love to hear the Z's in my room. But here's my question. Can they be driven by a 55 watt tube amp? I heard the Z's are absolute pigs for power/current. I love tube friendly speakers.

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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Quote Originally Posted by MDP View Post
    Looks good!

    Quit holding back on your impressions
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post


    Moved the Focal's upstairs for a demo with Pass this weekend. Sounding awesome!!
    Great pic of a gorgeous room. Impressed you got those monsters upstairs.
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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I would love to hear the Z's in my room. But here's my question. Can they be driven by a 55 watt tube amp? I heard the Z's are absolute pigs for power/current. I love tube friendly speakers.

    Mike
    That should not be a problem. I have driven mine with a small 25 watt amp and I hear to get the absolute best sound out of Zellatons is use the 25 watt Audio Consulting power amp. If you go back and read the report when the Zellatons were at the New York audio show a few years ago, they were running a pair of the 30 watt David Berning tube amps.

    Personally, I have never read a report that the Z's were power hungry. What is nice, a Job 225 amp or the Marashino cherry amps sounds wonderful with the Z's. You don't have to spend megabucks on an amplifier to get great sound.

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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Here was a review from the New York audio show. It looks like the Bernings are 60 wpc.

    NYAV12: Audio Arts shows Zellaton, Berning, Holborne, Tellurium Q | Confessions of a Part-Time Audiophile

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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    the only specs I could find say the SR-1 is a 86db speaker into a nominal 4 ohm impedance---so it most likely would measure even less sensitive. i wouldn't consider that 50-watt amp tube territory...or perhaps better said, I'd want to hear it first.

    i should also add, i consider Zellatons website very poor in this regard as they don't post specs of their loudspeakers.
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    Re: Focal, Pass XS and Lampi

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post

    i should also add, i consider Zellatons website very poor in this regard as they don't post specs of their loudspeakers.
    One wonders why not!...the world deserves to know more about these masterpieces! http://zellaton.com/en/
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