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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Myles, I am using the UNI-DIN alignment quite a bit lately, but not exclusively. For what I look for in an optimized cartridge set-up, it seems to work out with the most consistency. It is not based on Erik Lofgren's math from 1938 and it is an attempt to deal with the characteristics of a stereo micro groove LP, which weren't even around when Lofgren did his great work.

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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by stirlingtrayle View Post
    Myles, I am using the UNI-DIN alignment quite a bit lately, but not exclusively. For what I look for in an optimized cartridge set-up, it seems to work out with the most consistency. It is not based on Erik Lofgren's math from 1938 and it is an attempt to deal with the characteristics of a stereo micro groove LP, which weren't even around when Lofgren did his great work.
    That's what I was trying to say only more eloquently.

    I'm sure people would like to hear more about the Smartractor and perhaps what are the theoretical advantages (distortion, tangency, etc.) and sonic differences between say the Lofgren and Dietrich's Uni-Din alignment.
    Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
    Zellaton Plural Evo speakers, Doshi Audio EVO phonostage, VPI Avenger direct-drive turntable/VPI 12-inch gimbal Fatboy/vdH Colibri Master Signature/Triangle Art Apollo cartridges, SAT LM-12 tonearms/Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, VPI 12-inch gimballed Carbon Fiber arm/vdh Black Crimson and Sumiko Songbird, Mutech Hayabusa cartridges
    Technics RS1506 reel-to-reel with low inductance Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi Audio EVO tapestage, AudioQuest Dragon Zero, Audience FrontRow, Ensemble PC, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna Realization speaker cable, Ikigai Kangai speaker cable, SRA Craz 3/OHIO 2.3 platforms and Symposium ISIS/Ultra rack/platforms, Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC.

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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Myles, what I appreciate about the SMARTractor is the attention to detail and the overall precision of the device. The SMARTractor is a triangulation type alignment tool. Specifically, it includes three differently sized spindle inserts (7.1mm, 7.15mm, 7.2mm) to more precisely center the tool to the center of the platter. Without this feature, the tool may fit your particular turntable spindle, or it may too big or not fit at all. Most tools error on the side of too big to accommodate as many models as possible. If that starting point isn't precise, then one cannot be confident that the resulting alignment will be correct. I also appreciate the use of a mirrored platform, which allows for positioning your eye to try and eliminate parallax when viewing the cartridge and alignment grid. The tool includes 5 different alignment grids to experiment with (Baerwald/Loefgren A IEC, Baerwald/Loefgren A DIN, Loefgren B IEC, Loefgren B DIN, and UNI-DIN), so regardless of your particular requirements, the tool can accommodate what you want to try. There is also a very precise spindle to pivot measurement aspect to the tool as well that uses a Vernier type scale to 5/100mm accuracy. The importance of this, is so that you can measure and guarantee that the arm is mounted to achieve the correct spindle to pivot distance to which the geometry the arm was designed. So, if one can correctly position the arm spindle to pivot distance correctly, and also precisely center the tool around the spindle, you've gone a long way toward being able to accurately align the stylus to one of the provided alignment geometries. Caveat; given the size of the stylus we are attempting to align, the best we can hope for is precision within a compromise... We all know that, correct?? In regards to the UNI-DIN alignment, the primary difference is that it is not based on Erik Loefgren's original math, from which all the "know and public" geometries are based, e.g. Baerwald is the same alignment as Loefgren A, and Stevenson is the same math with different null points put into the equation, and most all turntable manufacturers use one of these, whether it is stated or not. I try to not say never, always, every, none, or similar absolutes, because as soon as you do...well, it doesn't end so good for you... They all behave with a "similar" characteristic in the distortion curve relative to their respective null points on the record. The UNI-DIN shows a slightly overall lower level of distortion, but the main difference is that the rate of change in the distortion levels is lower and shaped a bit differently. Our ears seem to be more sensitive to a higher rate of change rather than the absolute level of distortion, at least at this level. The actual null points of UNI-DIN are similar, but not identical, to Loefgren B IEC. I find that with UNI-DIN, lateral forces are lowered and less anti-skating force is required, so consequently azimuth is more stable across the record. All that said, depending on the geometry the arm, where UNI-DIN places the stylus tip and mass of a particular cartridge relative to what the arm will be happy with is something one has to experiment with. I find that it works quite well with the 12" VPI, for example, probably because the VPI alignment is, as far as I have been able to gauge, identical to Loefgren B IEC, which has similar null points to UNI-DIN. It's not the cheapest tool in the shed. I think it's $650 here in the US, but its the most precise I've found and it's super easy to use. Hope this helps!




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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by stirlingtrayle View Post
    Myles, what I appreciate about the SMARTractor is the attention to detail and the overall precision of the device. The SMARTractor is a triangulation type alignment tool. Specifically, it includes three differently sized spindle inserts (7.1mm, 7.15mm, 7.2mm) to more precisely center the tool to the center of the platter. Without this feature, the tool may fit your particular turntable spindle, or it may too big or not fit at all. Most tools error on the side of too big to accommodate as many models as possible. If that starting point isn't precise, then one cannot be confident that the resulting alignment will be correct. I also appreciate the use of a mirrored platform, which allows for positioning your eye to try and eliminate parallax when viewing the cartridge and alignment grid. The tool includes 5 different alignment grids to experiment with (Baerwald/Loefgren A IEC, Baerwald/Loefgren A DIN, Loefgren B IEC, Loefgren B DIN, and UNI-DIN), so regardless of your particular requirements, the tool can accommodate what you want to try. There is also a very precise spindle to pivot measurement aspect to the tool as well that uses a Vernier type scale to 5/100mm accuracy. The importance of this, is so that you can measure and guarantee that the arm is mounted to achieve the correct spindle to pivot distance to which the geometry the arm was designed. So, if one can correctly position the arm spindle to pivot distance correctly, and also precisely center the tool around the spindle, you've gone a long way toward being able to accurately align the stylus to one of the provided alignment geometries. Caveat; given the size of the stylus we are attempting to align, the best we can hope for is precision within a compromise... We all know that, correct?? In regards to the UNI-DIN alignment, the primary difference is that it is not based on Erik Loefgren's original math, from which all the "know and public" geometries are based, e.g. Baerwald is the same alignment as Loefgren A, and Stevenson is the same math with different null points put into the equation, and most all turntable manufacturers use one of these, whether it is stated or not. I try to not say never, always, every, none, or similar absolutes, because as soon as you do...well, it doesn't end so good for you... They all behave with a "similar" characteristic in the distortion curve relative to their respective null points on the record. The UNI-DIN shows a slightly overall lower level of distortion, but the main difference is that the rate of change in the distortion levels is lower and shaped a bit differently. Our ears seem to be more sensitive to a higher rate of change rather than the absolute level of distortion, at least at this level. The actual null points of UNI-DIN are similar, but not identical, to Loefgren B IEC. I find that with UNI-DIN, lateral forces are lowered and less anti-skating force is required, so consequently azimuth is more stable across the record. All that said, depending on the geometry the arm, where UNI-DIN places the stylus tip and mass of a particular cartridge relative to what the arm will be happy with is something one has to experiment with. I find that it works quite well with the 12" VPI, for example, probably because the VPI alignment is, as far as I have been able to gauge, identical to Loefgren B IEC, which has similar null points to UNI-DIN. It's not the cheapest tool in the shed. I think it's $650 here in the US, but its the most precise I've found and it's super easy to use. Hope this helps!



    Perfect!
    Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
    Zellaton Plural Evo speakers, Doshi Audio EVO phonostage, VPI Avenger direct-drive turntable/VPI 12-inch gimbal Fatboy/vdH Colibri Master Signature/Triangle Art Apollo cartridges, SAT LM-12 tonearms/Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, VPI 12-inch gimballed Carbon Fiber arm/vdh Black Crimson and Sumiko Songbird, Mutech Hayabusa cartridges
    Technics RS1506 reel-to-reel with low inductance Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi Audio EVO tapestage, AudioQuest Dragon Zero, Audience FrontRow, Ensemble PC, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna Realization speaker cable, Ikigai Kangai speaker cable, SRA Craz 3/OHIO 2.3 platforms and Symposium ISIS/Ultra rack/platforms, Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC.

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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotoy View Post
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    Thanks to Dan and Dre for the recommendation. Wish I had done this five years ago.
    You are welcome Larry. I figured Stirling would be able to help you out.

    Dre

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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dre_J View Post
    You are welcome Larry. I figured Stirling would be able to help you out.

    Dre
    My pleasure Larry
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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    My experience thus far with the SMARTractor has been excellent, but it does exercise one's patience. Because it is fragile you have to handle it with great care, but it is far more precise than what I had been using before. If I were to nitpick, I'd like to see the magnifier be closer to the platter and have built in LED lighting. Some cartridges have the stylus virtually hidden under the body and with the body very close to the record surface. Recently I aligned a Koetsu Coralstone, for example.

    I suppose an obvious complaint would be that it's expensive. Because I use it professionally for installations and alignments quite a bit, it's not a concern, but for the individual it's a tough one to swallow. In some ways I should be grateful because my service ($200) that typically takes several hours costs far less than the tools I use, and there's no learning curve on each to face.
    Brian Walsh
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    Re: Interesting Articles on Cartridge Alignment

    Brian, man do I agree about the magnifier issue, but I'm sure what could be done about it. I use my iPhone 5 on it's side with a screen flashlight app to illuminate the area. Damn Apple and their new rounded corners.... I did a Rosewood Signature last nigt and it's tough to get an accurate view under there. When I was at Spiral Groove and putting together the kit of set-up tools for the Centroid arm, I found a cool little loupe with a roughly 6" bamboo handle at a Japanese dollar store calked Daiso. It was $1.50. It's the best magnifier I've found for when things are tight with any of the long body cartridges like Koetsu's and the original Kiseki's. If I can figure out how to attach a photo, I'll post a picture of it...
    I understand that it's a bit on the expensive side, but the thing about precision is that it's the most expensive aspect of the tool. The materials used have to remain dimensionally stable over time and useage so they also have to be chosen and machined carefully. Personally, I think that holding the close tolerance they do with five different geometries to a single center point on the tool is a pretty cool thing and the fact that it is so easy to accurately switch from geometry to geometry is a testament to a well thought out and executed tool. Maybe not the cheapest tool in an audiophiles kit, but compared to the stuff it's designed to work with, one can spend more on a single isolation foot, which wouldn't yield as great a global "goodness" result. OR, better yet hire an experienced set-up guy like you to do the job properly, cuz it's not just about the alignment!

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