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    Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Tomorrow we will put the best from the above 3 to the test. Source will be digital with my Soulution 520 in the mix & out. The dacs will be a Chord Chordette Qute & a CH Precision, stay tuned..... WOOHOOO!!!!

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Tomorrow we will put the best from the above 3 to the test. Source will be digital with my Soulution 520 in the mix & out. The dacs will be a Chord Chordette Qute & a CH Precision, stay tuned..... WOOHOOO!!!!
    My prediction - - - Winner Zen Sati - - - second Shunyata - - - third Wire World just my guess.
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Can't wait to hear your impression on these Kev..
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Nice shootout! Hope Shunyata wins but think the Zen Sati may beat it out.

    Look forward to the results, Kev!


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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    BUGGER!!! The bloke with the Zen Sati's forget them but he did bring a CH Precision dac, it's good, real good!!! We ran it through the Soulution 520 as well as straight into a Sanders Magtech amp, class AB 500w 8 ohm, never ceases to amaze me this amp, I did own one back a ways. From the Magtech we went to Magnepan 20.7's Drive was a macbook air SSD fully quantum chipped with Wire World Platinum usb & balanced xlr were WW Plats. All power supply was Shunyata Anaconda this & that as well as speaker cables. We ran out of time so we didn't do any cable comparison but all agreed on one thing, the sound was just, "right"!!!!! It had everything in spades & even running the dac direct, as it has a very good pre in it, the more resolving detailed etc etc , it wasn't fatiguing at all. Some classical, big band, country, blues, the whole damn shooting match was just as good as the rest, reproduced superbly.











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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Glad you had fun though Kev!!
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Holy cow! Those speakers seem way too close together or way too big for that room. How big was the room?

    Glad you liked the DAC and gear. You're definitely a nice benchmark by which to gauge future gear. Glad it was a fun day.
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Mike the rooms only about 3m x 7m, the speakers are about 3m from the front wall, the walls are steel timber & glass, & everyone walks up there & thinks oh shit, this isn't going to work & it does, sublimely!!
    Dewey, was great fun.

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    That's impressive. I wonder how they would sound in a bigger room? I've owned Magnepan MMG's, 1.6, 1.7, 3.6, 3.7. Never the 20's. I can honestly say that the 1.6's with the Sunfire subs was one of the best systems I've ever had (and heard) for the money.

    I remember thinking how ridiculously expensive the 20's were. My perspective has changed!
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    So what was being tested? Inter-connects (digital, analog), speaker, power cables, or all three?
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    So what was being tested? Inter-connects (digital, analog), speaker, power cables, or all three?
    ???

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    ???
    Sorry. I guess I misread your post.

    Tomorrow we will put the best from the above 3 to the test. Source will be digital with my Soulution 520 in the mix & out. The dacs will be a Chord Chordette Qute & a CH Precision, stay tuned..... WOOHOOO!!!!
    I thought you were comparing cables from three vendors; Zen-Sati, Wire World, Shunyata.
    Bud

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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Bud, you must have missed the memo, the bloke with the Zen Sati forgot to bring them & after playing with the goodies he brought with him we ran out of time to do much more than listen to the music.


    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    BUGGER!!! The bloke with the Zen Sati's forget them but he did bring a CH Precision dac, it's good, real good!!! We ran it through the Soulution 520 as well as straight into a Sanders Magtech amp, class AB 500w 8 ohm, never ceases to amaze me this amp, I did own one back a ways. From the Magtech we went to Magnepan 20.7's Drive was a macbook air SSD fully quantum chipped with Wire World Platinum usb & balanced xlr were WW Plats. All power supply was Shunyata Anaconda this & that as well as speaker cables. We ran out of time so we didn't do any cable comparison but all agreed on one thing, the sound was just, "right"!!!!! It had everything in spades & even running the dac direct, as it has a very good pre in it, the more resolving detailed etc etc , it wasn't fatiguing at all. Some classical, big band, country, blues, the whole damn shooting match was just as good as the rest, reproduced superbly.










    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    So what was being tested? Inter-connects (digital, analog), speaker, power cables, or all three?
    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    ???
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Sorry. I guess I misread your post.



    I thought you were comparing cables from three vendors; Zen-Sati, Wire World, Shunyata.

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Bud, you must have missed the memo, the bloke with the Zen Sati forgot to bring them & after playing with the goodies he brought with him we ran out of time to do much more than listen to the music.
    Again, my apologies. While I saw that post, unless I misread it, it didn't answer my question.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    So what was being tested? Inter-connects (digital, analog), speaker, power cables, or all three?
    Of course, if there are no cables to test then it can't be done, but I assume the original goal was to compare cables, and I am curious as to which cables.
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    What a tease, Kev!
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Because of a different radiation pattern, Magnepans can be placed closer to the side walls compared to conventional speakers.
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Bud, it was to be their best, as in the top of their price list, not mine, not yours, but what they the manufacturers of each company consider to be their best. Unfortunately it didn't happen so it has become a moot point.

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Okay. Just as a suggestion, if you get a chance to do it again maybe you can specify a type of cable. Otherwise one vendor could show up with a power cord, another with a speaker cable, and another with a digital IC. While interesting, you wouldn't really gain any insight into sonic differences between their technologies.
    Bud

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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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    Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Yeah, fair point. it was going to be ic's & speaker cable.

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Hello
    what are the anti vibration used under CH?
    stillpoints?

    greetings to all!

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    Re: Zen Sati, Wire World, Shunyata!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonus View Post
    Hello
    what are the anti vibration used under CH?
    stillpoints?

    greetings to all!
    Hi. Those look like Stillpoints Ultra 5s with Ultra bases and a Stillpoints LP Isolator on top.
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    Yes, Stillpoints.

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